Friday, April 27, 2007

Chapter 8 Live Blogging!

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Blogger JasonW1 said...

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8:03 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

Was he really referring to him as G-d, but I do think that the eyes mean "knowing" and understanding.

8:07 AM  
Blogger jeffb said...

The eyes symbolize that somebody is always watching you and maybe that is why he is refering to God because he is always watching over you, no matter what.

8:07 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

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8:07 AM  
Blogger alym said...

I think he refers to TJ Eckleburg as God because just like god, the billboard is always watching and is looking down on you.

8:07 AM  
Blogger CecilyJ said...

Who is TJ Eckleberg. Is he a real person or does he merely represent the fact that someone is always watching.

8:08 AM  
Blogger Amberh said...

I think that the eyes of Dr. Eckleberg are the conscience of all the main characters in the book.

8:08 AM  
Blogger michaelm said...

Eckleberg sees everything just like God. I agree with Channing.

8:08 AM  
Blogger Scott A said...

I think that Wilson is referring to TJ Eckeleburg as God. TJ represents control in a way, it represents that someone is always watching.

8:08 AM  
Blogger EmilyL said...

Dr. T.J. Eckleburg has been in the book many times, watching over the characters in the book. This is the first time anyone has actually said something about it. He was compared to God's eyes. I think this is a perfect comparison because God sees everything, just like Dr. T.J. Eckleburg.

8:09 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

Scott, I like how you said that eyes represent controll. That is a really interesting thought!

8:09 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

I think he is referring to T.J Ecklebergs eyes as God becuase it just a metaphor that this billboard looks upon you as a real person is looking at you. Looking at your every moves just as God does.

8:09 AM  
Blogger Amberh said...

Cecily, the Dr's eyes are on a bilboard, it is not a real person.

8:09 AM  
Blogger jeffb said...

Why do you think that Fitzgerald put people in the eyes on the cover? What does that symbolize?

8:09 AM  
Blogger Adam B. said...

I feel as if eyes play a key role in this chapter especially with Eckleberg and how he was there to watch the death of Myrtle. Also I feel as if no matter where you go, you cannot be yourself. You cannot have an affair for everyone knows about it. There is no secrecy in this book except for Gatsby. He died an unknown man.

8:09 AM  
Blogger CecilyJ said...

I agree with Amber because a lot of the characters in the book are struggling with their conscience. They have all done things they regret and don't want anyone to see, and you Eckelberg, or God, sees everything.

8:10 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

I think Scott comment too about control... what do you mean by that?

8:10 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

That is really good question that Channing brings up about the Holocaust! I was wondering that too.

8:11 AM  
Blogger jeffb said...

Adam, why do you think that no matter where you go, you can not be yourself? I disagree with that.

8:11 AM  
Blogger Adam B. said...

Jeff-
I feel as if he put eyes in the cover to show that one there is going to lust going on with affairs because of the naked woman and also how there is someone watching from a distance. Like I said no one has secrets.

8:11 AM  
Blogger Amberh said...

Jeff, i think that the eyes on the cover represent that nothing can ever truly be hidden, God always knows and usually at least one other person does. Especially when it refers to an affaire

8:11 AM  
Blogger JasonW1 said...

Yea i agree i think in some way that Dr. TJ represents God looking down on them and watching everything they do.

8:11 AM  
Blogger Patw said...

i think the eyes represent that someone is watching over you even when you dont know it.

8:12 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

I don't think it was refering to the war when Wilson killed Gatsby. I think again, Fitzgerald is using a metaphor. It is merely that it is a massacre of an innocent person.

8:12 AM  
Blogger EmilyL said...

Jeff, the eyes on the cover I think represent all the eyes that are in the book. Dr. T.J. Eckleburg, Daisy, Tom, Gatsby, NIck. All of their eyes that are watching different things that are happening. There is also a tear coming from the eye on the cover, this must be all the sadness and hurt that many of the characters are feeling.

8:12 AM  
Blogger CecilyJ said...

I like your comment, Adam, about Gatsby being the only one with secrets. Does this make him stronger or weaker, as a person and a character?

8:13 AM  
Blogger alym said...

I agree with Cecily. TJ Eckelburg is just a billboard, just the guilt the characters of the story have makes the eyes look so much more powerful than they actually are.

8:13 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

Holocaust: great or complete destruction by fire. Could it not only be fire as in like burning, but also like firing a shot from a gun? I don't know.

8:13 AM  
Blogger Scott A said...

I think that the people in the Great Gatsby are very conscious of their public image, TJ's eyes represent the scrutiny of the public in this society.

8:13 AM  
Blogger luke s said...

I agree with jeff that the eyes simboize the all knowing presance or being. It has a connection to God because He is always wacthing. He knows everything about us and he knows all the "dirt" in our lives.

8:14 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

I really like what Emily said about the cover on the book. I think the tear on the cover is significant. It maybe is God watching on the world and is sadden by what it is coming to. Do you think Gatsby represents those that are left in the world that are actually good?

8:14 AM  
Blogger Adam B. said...

Jeff-
Name one part in the novel where the character is by themself away from everyone where they don't think about anyone else. The are multiple characters in each chapter. Everyone is intermingled with one another with secrets and affairs. Yes they are secrets but they are known.

8:14 AM  
Blogger Amberh said...

Do you think that Fitzgerald put the word holocaust in the book because everything that happened in the Valley of the Ashes began a hell for the rest of the main characters?

8:14 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

Zoe brings up the point of the fire and pool water, it is sort of like cancelling out each other, but at the same time it is like it didn't come soon enough.

8:14 AM  
Blogger EmilyL said...

I think the secrets that Gatsby holds makes him stronger because he has that mystereious side to him that no one knows. This gives him some sort of power over the others.

8:15 AM  
Blogger Scott A said...

Jeff- I don't think that Fitzgerald had any control or input about what was on the front cover of the book.

8:15 AM  
Blogger CecilyJ said...

I think that they didnt drain the pool, so that Gatsby's being could remain "pure" I think this is what the water represents. Also since it is contained it might hold Gatsby's secrets in a way. He died letting his secrets go into the water.

8:16 AM  
Blogger jeffb said...

I like Jordan's comment about how God is saddened by what he see's going on throughout the world, and I think that Gatsby represents the good that is left in the world.

8:16 AM  
Blogger Amberh said...

I thought that Nick was trustworthy, why wouldn't he be?

8:16 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

I don't think that Nick is always trustworthy, but I think that he can be more trustworthy than many of the other characters.

8:17 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

I agree with Brittany about Nick being a very loyal friend. Why do you think Nick made that comment about how he dissapproved of Gatsby?

8:17 AM  
Blogger Adam B. said...

Does anyone feel as if Gatsby knew that his fate was coming soon? Since he has never used the pool yet on this day he chose to keep it filled. Do you think that Gatsby knew he was going to die?

8:17 AM  
Blogger EmilyL said...

When Nick shouts back to Gasby with a friendly compliment, Nick says he is glad he did. This happens to be the last time Nick saw Gatsby. Does this symbolize Nick and Gatsby's friendship?

8:17 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

Lizzie-
Why don't you think that Nick is always trustworthy?

8:18 AM  
Blogger Scott A said...

Jeff- I disagree that Gatsby represents thelast bit of good in the world. He had secrets also, he was hardly perfect.

8:18 AM  
Blogger michaelm said...

Fitzgerald waited to explain Gatsby's past to keep us in supense. Gatsby was made to be a mysterious character.

8:19 AM  
Blogger alym said...

I agree with Jeremy, that waiting until the last chapter was a way to show how Gatsby really is.

8:19 AM  
Blogger michaelm said...

hi scott

8:19 AM  
Blogger Amberh said...

Adam, i really liked your comment on Gatsby knowing he was going to die, I am not sure if he did know his fate. However, it is ironic.

8:20 AM  
Blogger EmilyL said...

Adam- No I don't think Gatsby left the water in the pool cause he knew he was going to die. I think that it just happened. It sets up a peaceful, clam, clean, refreshing death that is very fitting for the Great Gatsby.

8:20 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

I think a part of Gatsby was already dead the day that he was killed. He knew that he would probably not have Diasy, or at least not all of her. I got the sense that he was very sadden that day and something was missing from his personality. Everything that he lived for ( Daisy) was still with Tom and I think that killed him before he actually died.

8:20 AM  
Blogger CecilyJ said...

I think Nick is very trustworthy and loyal. He is the only one that helped Gatsby and prepared the funeral. Everyone else was just using Gatsby. I think its sad that Gatsby did everything to make others happy, and yet so many people abused what he offered. Nick was the only one that appreciated Gatsby and didn't take advantage of him.

8:20 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

I think that Fitzgerald waited because he wanted to have everyone wonder what Gatsby is really about, because we really wanted to know. If he hadn't just died or been about to die when we learn about his whole mysterious past, then I know that I amy not have kept reading. I really think that it was to keep people interested and reading.

8:20 AM  
Blogger Bill M said...

I took the eyes as symbolizing that someone/something is always watching every action taken or move done be any of the characters.

8:21 AM  
Blogger jeffb said...

Michael- Why do you think that Fitzgerald held Gatsby's past? For suspense, but what else do you think?

8:21 AM  
Blogger Scott A said...

Michael- How about we get on task?
Aly- I think that it is meaningful that the later chapters are about Gatsby, while the name of the book is the Great Gatsby.

8:21 AM  
Blogger Patw said...

Do you think that Daisy is like Fitsgerald? the way he loved two women.

8:22 AM  
Blogger michaelm said...

jeff-what do you think?

8:23 AM  
Blogger EmilyL said...

Scott and Mike- stop messing around!

If Gatsby wouldn't have been killed, would Daisy have chosen him?

8:23 AM  
Blogger Lizzie A said...

Jordan, I think that Nick is always trustworthy because he seems to be in the middle of all these terrible things, but in the end, he is the only one who is really not "guilty" of anything, and he still likes Gatsby in the end.

8:23 AM  
Blogger JasonW1 said...

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8:24 AM  
Blogger Amberh said...

I think that Daisy is a foil for Zelda, and that Gatsby is a foil for Fitzgerald, becaus he pursues a woman which doesn't persue him back.

8:24 AM  
Blogger Jordan L said...

Pat- I think that she loved to men but for all the wrong reasons. I think in some ways she made herself.

8:24 AM  
Blogger Bill M said...

I agree with emily in Gatsby's passing. The way he went out suits how he lived in a comfortable clean sort of way.

8:25 AM  

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